Does the Mexican Consul who issues ID’S to people without any documents pose a national security threat?
Author: admin / Category: open office mexicoBut the famous Mexican Consul is not even accepted in Mexico as legal ID so why does Mexico peddle it here ?
Hundreds of Mexican nationals who live in Oklahoma spent Saturday morning at Chelino’s restaurant in Bricktown, where the Mexican consulate from Little Rock, Ark., had set up a temporary office. Some were in line for passports, but most were requesting matriculas consulares, popular Mexican ID cards that are not legally recognized in Oklahoma under the state’s tough immigration law.
The 650 people who showed up represent a small portion of Oklahoma’s immigrants who need the consul’s documentation services.
Proving identity Andres Chao, Mexican consul in Little Rock, said many local Hispanic immigrants have trouble getting state-issued IDs, because they do not have their birth certificates or other documents. Matriculas, while not recognized as official IDs by the state, are useful for opening bank accounts and proving identity, he said.Sergio, a roofer who did not give his last name, was among those waiting to get a consular card. He said he came to Oklahoma from Durango, Mexico, about 12 years ago, and he and his wife are raising two U.S.-born children.
He said HB 1804 has not negatively affected his family or friends.
Open communication
Chao said the Mexican consulate respects state laws, but the best way to work together is to keep the channels of communication open.
Chao’s consulate opened in April 2007 and has issued more than 30,000 documents to Mexicans in Arkansas, eastern Oklahoma and western Tennessee.
http://newsok.com/ids-may-aid-mexican-nationals/article/3315710
Explain-Hispanic immigrants have trouble getting state-issued IDs, because they do not have their birth certificates or other documents.Where do you see legal Mexico documents at and next I suppose they use them to vote and Applicants must show proof of residency with a document bearing the applicant�s name, such as a rent receipt, utility bill, insurance form or pay stub, or general mail showing address and name, or original money transfer to Mexico.
If these people cannot provide birth certificates to get ID’s here what are they using to prove their identity to the mexican consulate?
No one ever lies? Or they just don’t lie to the consulate?
It’s ridiculous to allow these as legit ID. I could set a table in some restaurant and issue ID’s too. Same Thing!
May 7th, 2009 at 12:45 pm
It does not pose a national security threat, the consulate requires proof of identity. Many immigrants have their Voter cards from Mexico with their picture and fingerprint on it, but it is in spanish as well other forms on ID that are in spanish only. The Matricula provides a document that is both in English and Spanish and is accepted by banks and police as form of ID. The Matricula helps to insure that people are who they say they are in a form everyone can understand.
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My wife has one!
May 7th, 2009 at 1:34 pm
It is a huge security threat! People have been arrested on suspicion of a wide array of crimes and found to hold multiple matriculas in different names — and they were all valid, legitimate cards issued by Mexican consulates, not fakes. I recall one press report from a few years ago where a guy who was arrested had gotten 3 matriculas in different names from the same consulate (Denver, IIRC) all within the same day or couple of days. Not all of those who have been able to obtain matriculas are Mexican citizens.
They are not valid in Mexico. They are only to help Mexican illegal aliens obtain benefits they should not be able to get.
Mexico is not the only country which has cards like these. Guatemala is another country which issues similar identification cards.
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May 7th, 2009 at 1:41 pm
You are totally misinformed on Mexico not accepting these IDs. The Mexican consulate issues these cards because they are allowed to and law enforcement are enthusiastic backers of these IDs. It's a very very good source of Identification plus a lot of U.S. Businesses accept these cards to. If you are "OUTRAGED" about this, but I don't know why anybody would be?, you should really complain about law enforcement and the many many businesses that have no problem with them.
Mexico on these IDs:
The ID card is a way for the Mexican government to keep track of its citizens for consular and tax purposes, collect data on them, and provide them with what the government considers to be a basic human right: the ability to identify oneself.
U.S. Law enforcement:
Local US police and sheriff departments have been among the most enthusiastic backers of the consular IDs. Nationwide, an estimated 800 departments accept the matrícula as valid identification. Many cities have also received the scanners that allow officers to check the cards' most sophisticated security features.
http://www.migrationinformation.org/feature/display.cfm?ID=115
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May 7th, 2009 at 2:16 pm
If these people cannot provide birth certificates to get ID’s here what are they using to prove their identity to the mexican consulate?
No one ever lies? Or they just don’t lie to the consulate?
It’s ridiculous to allow these as legit ID. I could set a table in some restaurant and issue ID’s too. Same Thing!
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